are you trying to tell me bush has some redeeming qualities? never! I have to admit he does have some good ideas (probably put into his head by other people) and sometimes i think he really does believe in the whole christian fundamentalist views he preeches to get elected. I could see him sitting there cluelessly saying what about gay marriage? why are we invading countries? you never know, but I think he's a good-hearted puppet with no power except what cheney, rove, and rummy dole out to him.
I've always been a fan of John Walsh. This man has turned the personal tragedy of his son's death into a goal of protecting and saving others. I'm so glad to see this bill signed into law.
ellie,you dont think Bush has ANY redeeming qualities? You think ALL of his actions, signings and policies are contrarian to our good health as a nation?... Heck, I thought Nixon was the biggest crook we've ever had but if you look at his tenure, some of the best social changes for fairness in Education and Health Care occured under his Presidency. Just a thought, nothing more...
Lovely, George. Just go out and look lovely and people will think you care about the children who are being bombed to death over there so we don't have to do it here. Good legislation - but Bush had nothing to do with it, except sign and grin.
that, my dear glenda, is- as dear truth-pain says- 'fodder for another post.' :)
tp- bush is, sadly, an alcoholic, who i believe has fallen off of the wagon again.(see g-8 summit) i think that he thought that he would be in charge of stuff- but has been relegated to photo ops and speechifying- neither are his strong points. there isn't much to find common ground with in this particular administration- so i grasp at any straw thrown my way. i was watching america's most wanted last night and john walsh was talking about it. i decided to reach out and grab onto it as a positive- and while it isn't much- it is something. bush has almost zero redeeming qualities as a politician and i don't know him personally so i will assume he is a better person than politician. we'll leave cheney and rummy completely out because i don't see anything redeemable in them on any level.
Believe me, this is not the real GOP. This was a have to. They would have been crucified if he would have turned a deaf ear to this like some many other issues.
No one is absolutely wrong, and no one is absolutely right, all the time. A handful more than Half the American people voted for Bush, so there's a chance that he gets half the things right. Not always the right half though. lol!
Is this another law that he doesn't have to obey? There have been over 750 of hem you know.
Yes, some good legislation, but overall, he should do something to protect the children in Iraq, like end the occupation and bring our brothers and sisters home!
I'm amused at how many are quick to try and re-prove how bad Bush is... does good legislation make them nervous?
Every President has done some good things for this nation, and all of them have had the best intentions for this nation.
Some have been much more successful at it than others, and some have really screwed it up, but I will never belive that any President of the US has done anything without the nation's best interests at heart of their agenda.
Think about it, it's about the most selfless job you could ever get... you cannot make a carreer out of it, at best you only get office for 8 years, and no matter what you do, around 40% of the people you serve will decry you as the worst ever.
You'll get called names, belittled, beat down, insulted, and then the stress of having over 200 million lives saftey directly in your hands?
All for a salary of around $400,000 per year?
Find me a CEO that is in charge of a tenth of the infrastructure and personell that the Chief Executive is in charge of, and that man/woman will make at least 5x that ammount, and work less hours.
The position gets all the blame, none of the credit, all the stress, and none of the celbration, then after 4/8 years, they are sent off to the "old Presidents home" where they make some camio apperences at fund raisers and occasional news spots.
But seriously, keep trying to demonize him, it brings out the best in your political views and vision, really shows your "depth".
really? i thought that the presidency was really the height of hubris. being leader of the free world is intoxicating stuff. you get publicity and power and it is the pinnacle of politics in this country- you can't go any higher in politics for an ambitious politician. that is why many politicos want the job. it isn't to be selfless or serve the greater good. it is to fulfill the need for power. have selfless men served? probably. haven't identified one in the nation's history who wasn't rich and ambitious too. many good things happened in our country's history and most of it was accomplished when politicians were working together and not greedily sucking up power. i don't bash bush because i really don't feel that he is in charge. i will probably be dead and buried before the official version comes out that it was cheney and rumsfeld who were running the show. they are the ones my contempt is for. they are the ones who deserve impeachment and prosecution for war crimes. take a look at the evidence or keep burying your head in the sand.
I dont think very many do want the job. I think you could probably count on two hands the number from each party that want that job, and as you stated, thier position has a lot of pomp and circumstance around it, much less power than is actually credited to it (i.e. "creating jobs", "fixing the economy", "protecting the people", even signing this bill...)
See, the Presidency is not an monarchy, the real power players sit in Congress. The President gets the blame and credit for things way way out of his control...
hubris is expressed in the royal court of Congress that has become a stomping ground for pretentiousness and hypocrites.
g- i am not picking on your opinion- i just don't agree with it entirely. i do agree that congress needs as much of a reality check as the oval office. as a matter of fact, congress colluded with the oval office to bring us to the place we are at today- and that is a big, fat mess. what needs to happen is a restoration of the checks and balances. hopefully that will happen in november in congress and we will have an evening out and moderates back in control. i have become jaded and cynical because of the corruption and outright grabbing of power that this oval office has done- so i doubt that we will ever be truly the land of the free again. i hope that i am wrong- and i will be more than happy to admit i am wrong should the time come.
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are you trying to tell me bush has some redeeming qualities? never! I have to admit he does have some good ideas (probably put into his head by other people) and sometimes i think he really does believe in the whole christian fundamentalist views he preeches to get elected. I could see him sitting there cluelessly saying what about gay marriage? why are we invading countries? you never know, but I think he's a good-hearted puppet with no power except what cheney, rove, and rummy dole out to him.
I've always been a fan of John Walsh. This man has turned the personal tragedy of his son's death into a goal of protecting and saving others. I'm so glad to see this bill signed into law.
ellie- he was told to sign and smile and so he did. i am just glad that he did as he was told. :)
ellie,you dont think Bush has ANY redeeming qualities? You think ALL of his actions, signings and policies are contrarian to our good health as a nation?...
Heck, I thought Nixon was the biggest crook we've ever had but if you look at his tenure, some of the best social changes for fairness in Education and Health Care occured under his Presidency. Just a thought, nothing more...
I have to agree with Ellie on this one..a good hearted puppet. He does what he is told.
Lovely, George. Just go out and look lovely and people will think you care about the children who are being bombed to death over there so we don't have to do it here. Good legislation - but Bush had nothing to do with it, except sign and grin.
that, my dear glenda, is- as dear truth-pain says- 'fodder for another post.' :)
tp- bush is, sadly, an alcoholic, who i believe has fallen off of the wagon again.(see g-8 summit) i think that he thought that he would be in charge of stuff- but has been relegated to photo ops and speechifying- neither are his strong points. there isn't much to find common ground with in this particular administration- so i grasp at any straw thrown my way. i was watching america's most wanted last night and john walsh was talking about it. i decided to reach out and grab onto it as a positive- and while it isn't much- it is something. bush has almost zero redeeming qualities as a politician and i don't know him personally so i will assume he is a better person than politician. we'll leave cheney and rummy completely out because i don't see anything redeemable in them on any level.
Believe me, this is not the real GOP. This was a have to. They would have been crucified if he would have turned a deaf ear to this like some many other issues.
No one is absolutely wrong, and no one is absolutely right, all the time. A handful more than Half the American people voted for Bush, so there's a chance that he gets half the things right. Not always the right half though. lol!
You know he just wants to protect children for the GOP master plan ... soylent green is people!
I agree, signing this one into law is a no brainer (good think, since Bush's own is pickled.)
Is this another law that he doesn't have to obey? There have been over 750 of hem you know.
Yes, some good legislation, but overall, he should do something to protect the children in Iraq, like end the occupation and bring our brothers and sisters home!
I'm amused at how many are quick to try and re-prove how bad Bush is... does good legislation make them nervous?
Every President has done some good things for this nation, and all of them have had the best intentions for this nation.
Some have been much more successful at it than others, and some have really screwed it up, but I will never belive that any President of the US has done anything without the nation's best interests at heart of their agenda.
Think about it, it's about the most selfless job you could ever get... you cannot make a carreer out of it, at best you only get office for 8 years, and no matter what you do, around 40% of the people you serve will decry you as the worst ever.
You'll get called names, belittled, beat down, insulted, and then the stress of having over 200 million lives saftey directly in your hands?
All for a salary of around $400,000 per year?
Find me a CEO that is in charge of a tenth of the infrastructure and personell that the Chief Executive is in charge of, and that man/woman will make at least 5x that ammount, and work less hours.
The position gets all the blame, none of the credit, all the stress, and none of the celbration, then after 4/8 years, they are sent off to the "old Presidents home" where they make some camio apperences at fund raisers and occasional news spots.
But seriously, keep trying to demonize him, it brings out the best in your political views and vision, really shows your "depth".
really? i thought that the presidency was really the height of hubris. being leader of the free world is intoxicating stuff. you get publicity and power and it is the pinnacle of politics in this country- you can't go any higher in politics for an ambitious politician. that is why many politicos want the job. it isn't to be selfless or serve the greater good. it is to fulfill the need for power. have selfless men served? probably. haven't identified one in the nation's history who wasn't rich and ambitious too. many good things happened in our country's history and most of it was accomplished when politicians were working together and not greedily sucking up power. i don't bash bush because i really don't feel that he is in charge. i will probably be dead and buried before the official version comes out that it was cheney and rumsfeld who were running the show. they are the ones my contempt is for. they are the ones who deserve impeachment and prosecution for war crimes. take a look at the evidence or keep burying your head in the sand.
that is why many politicos want the job.
I dont think very many do want the job. I think you could probably count on two hands the number from each party that want that job, and as you stated, thier position has a lot of pomp and circumstance around it, much less power than is actually credited to it (i.e. "creating jobs", "fixing the economy", "protecting the people", even signing this bill...)
See, the Presidency is not an monarchy, the real power players sit in Congress. The President gets the blame and credit for things way way out of his control...
hubris is expressed in the royal court of Congress that has become a stomping ground for pretentiousness and hypocrites.
just my opinion on that though.
g- i am not picking on your opinion- i just don't agree with it entirely. i do agree that congress needs as much of a reality check as the oval office. as a matter of fact, congress colluded with the oval office to bring us to the place we are at today- and that is a big, fat mess. what needs to happen is a restoration of the checks and balances. hopefully that will happen in november in congress and we will have an evening out and moderates back in control. i have become jaded and cynical because of the corruption and outright grabbing of power that this oval office has done- so i doubt that we will ever be truly the land of the free again. i hope that i am wrong- and i will be more than happy to admit i am wrong should the time come.
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